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**stormforce** · 30 July 2006, 18:45

Originally posted by Apache

Not some kind of metaphysical question, how long, in metres is a surf?

with the rear s/w/carrier to the f/bumper 4.70m with full b/bar 4.90m

**TonyN** · 30 July 2006, 20:55

I case the anti 4x4 nazi's bother you over driving a 'obscenely large 4x4', its 15mm shorter than Mr Average's Ford Mondeo.

**Apache** · 30 July 2006, 21:52

Was just thinking of modifying my front garden so I can park the truck there rather than leaving it athe mercy of the chavs down the road.

**Chillitt** · 30 July 2006, 21:54

what you need is the bit of kit in your avatar dropping shell cases all around the surf, that'll fix em!

**stormforce** · 30 July 2006, 21:55

Originally posted by Apache

Was just thinking of modifying my front garden so I can park the truck there rather than leaving it athe mercy of the chavs down the road.

dont blame you.if i was you i would leave more room so you are able to get around it if needed

How long is a 2nd gen?